Do not be afraid of a new Pope. A lot of new speculation will arise, and people will make wild predictions. They do not have a very good track record. Trust in Jesus and READ your Bible. Not men.
Seventh-day Adventist prophecy teachers like Walter Veith, Doug Batchelor, and Stephen Bohr are known for their strong views on end-time events, often interpreting global politics—especially concerning the papacy and U.S. presidents—through a prophetic lens. While they are usually careful not to make direct date-setting predictions (especially after the 1844 Great Disappointment), they have occasionally made speculative statements or implications that did not materialize.
Here are some notable examples of speculative or false predictions/claims from these figures, particularly relating to popes and U.S. presidents:
🔹 Walter Veith
Known for: Strong conspiracy-based interpretations of prophecy, connecting Freemasonry, Catholicism, and world events.
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Pope Benedict XVI was possibly the last pope (implied around 2011-2012):
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Veith suggested that Pope Benedict XVI might be the final pope or that his resignation was a major prophetic signal. When Pope Francis replaced him, Veith shifted his interpretations rather than admitting the prediction was false.
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Obama's presidency and Sunday laws:
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Veith, during the Obama era, suggested the U.S. was moving swiftly toward enforcing a national Sunday law—a core Adventist prophetic concern—under the influence of the papacy. No such law was proposed or passed.
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Jesuit Pope Francis ushering in final events:
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After Francis became pope, Veith said his Jesuit background was a prophetic game-changer and implied that major prophetic fulfillments would follow soon. More than a decade later, many of those expectations remain unfulfilled.
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🔹 Doug Batchelor
Known for: Popular evangelist, avoids setting dates but sometimes allows speculative interpretations.
Examples:
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End-time escalation under Obama:
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Like Veith, Batchelor heavily implied that Barack Obama’s presidency could lead to end-time persecution of Sabbath-keepers, possibly aligning with the beast power (papacy). These events did not unfold as suggested.
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Speculations about Pope Francis’ U.N. involvement:
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Batchelor warned that Pope Francis speaking to the U.S. Congress and U.N. in 2015 might be a precursor to global enforcement of Sunday worship. No such enforcement happened.
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📌 Note: Batchelor usually adds disclaimers about not knowing exact dates or details, but the tone and urgency of his warnings often give the impression that prophecy is unfolding imminently.
🔹 Stephen Bohr
Known for: Conservative theologian, prophetic teacher, founder of Secrets Unsealed.
Examples:
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Speculative connections to Donald Trump:
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Bohr suggested that Donald Trump's first presidency could align with a Protestant-Catholic alliance leading to Sunday legislation, especially as Trump courted Evangelical support. No Sunday law or overt prophetic fulfillment occurred during his administration.
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Urgent warnings about Pope Francis:
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Like others, Bohr linked Francis’ climate encyclicals and speeches to potential Sunday observance enforcement, arguing they were part of an agenda to fulfill Revelation 13. Again, such enforcement never took place.
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General Themes of Unfulfilled Speculations:
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The imminent imposition of Sunday laws in the U.S.
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The papacy taking global control, especially via the U.N. or climate policy.
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U.S. presidents forming alliances with the Vatican to persecute Sabbath-keepers.
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Specific papal visits (e.g., 2015) being pivotal moments of prophetic fulfillment.
Despite these not materializing, such statements are usually reinterpreted rather than retracted—a common pattern in prophetic ministries that rely on "present truth" adaptations.
🔹David Gates
🔹 Failed Prophetic Timing Predictions
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Spring 2019 Event (Second Coming/Persecution)
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Gates preached a sermon (often referred to as “Even at the Door”) in 2018 suggesting that significant end-time events — including increased persecution of Seventh-day Adventists and possibly even events tied to prophetic fulfilments — would occur by Spring 2019. That period came and went without the predicted outcome.
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Prediction of 3½ Years of Persecution Starting March 2019
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Some presentations by Gates included the idea that a three and a half year period of persecution would begin around March 2019 — again based on interpretable prophetic timelines. There’s no evidence this began or occurred as described.
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Future “Fall 2020” Prophetic Date
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In some talks, Gates implied that prophetic timelines (e.g., a literal 2,520-day period related to biblical prophecy) would initiate with certain world events and potentially start around Fall 2020. Those literal prophetic timelines didn’t materialize as predicted.
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🔹 Other Controversial Claims (Often Labeled False by Critics)
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COVID-19 Vaccine and 5G Claims
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Gates reportedly claimed that COVID-19 vaccines could modify human DNA, make individuals unclean before God, and that vaccinations combined with 5G technology could control people’s minds — assertions widely rejected by scientists and public health authorities.
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Economic and Prophetic Forecasts
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In the past (e.g., around 2008 and afterward) Gates is reported to have made bold economic forecasts tied to prophetic interpretation — such as predicting the U.S. economy’s collapse, the dollar becoming worthless, and consistent price increases — which did not come to pass as foretold.
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Claims About Historical Religious Figures
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He’s also been involved in stories or claims linking figures such as Mother Teresa with Adventist theology in ways that have been publicly denied (e.g., claims that her ministry was based on The Ministry of Healing, which the relevant center has stated was not true).
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⚠️ Important Notes
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Many of the “predictions” attributed to Gates are interpretations of biblical prophecy rather than explicit date-setting like “World ends on X date.” However, critics argue his interpretations functioned like predictions because he linked them to specific future timeframes.
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These items come from secondary critiques, church commentary, and public responses — not official Adventist Church statements — but they reflect how these claims have been received and analyzed by commentators and peers.
Remeber, these people do NOT speak for the Seventh-day Adventist Church. A lot of people put their faith in humans. Don't be that person.
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